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House Of Commons.

newspapers were full of hostilities . To return to the usurpation of the functions of Parliament by the King's servants , he asked what figure this Parliament would , make in history , if it overlooked so fatal a precedent ? As to himself he should oppose the second reading of the resolutions , and if supported , would pledge himself to bring forward a motion , charging the Minister with " a high crime and misdemeanour , " The Minister ' s speech ,- yesterday , was a worse libel on the Constitution , than any thing in the writings of Paine ; and if he were a Juryman on his trial , he should certainly find him guilty , and say that the mains animus to

destroy the Constitution was evident . Little of it , indeed , was left ,-if the power of the purse was taken from the Commons . He should therefore vote against the second reading . Mr . Pitt rose with evident marks of agitation , and began by observing , that the Hon . Gentleman was in the habit of using inflammatory language , and of calling out that the Constitution was in danger . He contended that Ministers were justified in what they had done , by the vote of credit , wliich was" to enable his Majesty ' s Ministers to adopt such measures as the exigency of the circumstances

may require . " Sir Wm . Pultney said , that the measure in question appeared . to him criminal and unconstitutional , and the defence set up was extremely weak . Thevoteofcred . it was for extraordinaries , and included only the articles previously set down in the estimates . No minister had before ever dared to convert part of a vote of credit to a foreign subsidy . Though he saw much to blame in the increase of tlie Navy debt , and could point out many abuses , tills gross infringement of the Constitution ' was , in his opinion , the primary object of enquiry .

Mr . Grey said , that after the truly constitutional speech of the Hon . Baronet , he should detain the House but little . From the papers on the table , it appeared that only 77 , 000 ! . out of the whole 1 , 200 , 000 k had been sent to the Emperor between the sitting of the last and the present Parliament . No attack so direct as this had . ever been made on every thing dear to man ; and though it might be said that Ministers were not to be fettered by that House in a moment of negotiation , yet now that the French were acknowledged to be capable of the accustomed relations of peace and amityand to have snorted the fumes of the indigested

, away blood of their Sovereign , it might be especially useful to exhibit the proud spectacle of a free people treating with a free people , ourselves as jealous of our rights as they could be of theirs . Mr . Wilberforce , Mr . Yorke , the Master of the Rolls , and Lord Hawkesbury vindicated the Minister : Mr . Harrison , Mr . Curwen , and Mr . William Smith renrobated his conduct .

Mr . Fox begged the House not to confound the proper application of the money with the mode of obtainining it . It might be proper or not to send . money to the Emperor , but had the Minister so far abolished the Constitution as to have the right of doing so , without the consent of Parliament ? Against such doctrine he wouldcontend in that House as longas possible , by words ; and otherwise , ifnecessaiv , out of it ; for he was born free , and free he would die . So far he was an incorrigible Jacobin . Mr . Pitt declined any further discussion that niht .

g Mr . Bastard said he would vote for the supplies , without meaning to imply any approbation of the Minister ' s conduct . The House then divided—for the resolution , 164—against it 58—majority 106 . Friday , 9 . The London Docks , Chichester Roads , Scotch Distillery , Excise Additional Duty , and Customs Duty Bills were read a first time . Dudley Canal Bill read a third time and piysed . Mr . Maiming brought in the Bill for forming Wet Docks at Shadwell , for the

accommodation of the trade of London , which being read a first time , he said , that from the report of the Select Committee of last year , the House would be in possession of the necessity that existed for this much wished for improvement . But to enforce the sense of this necessity the stronger , he would mention : i circumstance which latch- came to his knowledge . It was very well known that the Merchants of the City of London were subject to very great losses from the depre-

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LONDON: Article 3
THE PROPRIETOR TO THE SUBSCRIBERS. Article 4
TO READERS, CORRESPONDENTS, &c. Article 5
THE SCIENTIFIC MAGAZINE, AND FREEMASONS' REPOSITORY, FOR JANUARY 1797. Article 6
ON SUICIDE AND MADNESS. Article 14
TO THE EDITOR OF THE SCIENTIFIC MAGAZINE. Article 16
THE GHOST OF STERNE IN LONDON. Article 20
ESSAYS ON SUBJECTS CONNECTED WITH HISTORY AND CLASSICAL LEARNING. Article 24
LETTERS FROM LORD ESSEX TO QUEEN ELIZABETH. Article 31
THE DYING MIRA, A FRAGMENT. Article 32
ANECDOTES. Article 33
REMARKABLE RESEMBLANCE IN TWO TWIN BROTHERS. Article 35
SINGULAR INSTANCE OF A CAPACITY TO ENDURE ABSTINENCE AND HUNGER IN A SPIDER. Article 36
ABSENCE OF MIND. Article 37
FREEMASONS' REPOSITORY. Article 38
MASONRY FOUNDED ON SCRIPTURE. Article 38
ROYAL CUMBERLAND SCHOOL. Article 43
TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' REPOSITORY. Article 45
MASONIC INTELLIGENCE. Article 45
REVIEW OF NEW PUBLICATIONS. Article 46
POETRY. Article 54
THE AFFLICTED PARENTS, AN ELEGY Article 54
TO THE MEMORY OF LAURA. Article 55
ODE ON CLASSIC DISCIPLINE. Article 55
LINES Article 56
IMITATION OF SHAKSPEAR, Article 56
SONNET. Article 57
TO THE GLOW-WORM. Article 57
SONG. Article 57
EPITAPH ON A BEAUTIFUL BOY. Article 57
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 58
REPORT OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE BRITISH PARLIAMENT. Article 60
HOUSE OF COMMONS. Article 60
MONTHLY CHRONICLE. Article 66
OBITUARY. Article 75
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House Of Commons.

newspapers were full of hostilities . To return to the usurpation of the functions of Parliament by the King's servants , he asked what figure this Parliament would , make in history , if it overlooked so fatal a precedent ? As to himself he should oppose the second reading of the resolutions , and if supported , would pledge himself to bring forward a motion , charging the Minister with " a high crime and misdemeanour , " The Minister ' s speech ,- yesterday , was a worse libel on the Constitution , than any thing in the writings of Paine ; and if he were a Juryman on his trial , he should certainly find him guilty , and say that the mains animus to

destroy the Constitution was evident . Little of it , indeed , was left ,-if the power of the purse was taken from the Commons . He should therefore vote against the second reading . Mr . Pitt rose with evident marks of agitation , and began by observing , that the Hon . Gentleman was in the habit of using inflammatory language , and of calling out that the Constitution was in danger . He contended that Ministers were justified in what they had done , by the vote of credit , wliich was" to enable his Majesty ' s Ministers to adopt such measures as the exigency of the circumstances

may require . " Sir Wm . Pultney said , that the measure in question appeared . to him criminal and unconstitutional , and the defence set up was extremely weak . Thevoteofcred . it was for extraordinaries , and included only the articles previously set down in the estimates . No minister had before ever dared to convert part of a vote of credit to a foreign subsidy . Though he saw much to blame in the increase of tlie Navy debt , and could point out many abuses , tills gross infringement of the Constitution ' was , in his opinion , the primary object of enquiry .

Mr . Grey said , that after the truly constitutional speech of the Hon . Baronet , he should detain the House but little . From the papers on the table , it appeared that only 77 , 000 ! . out of the whole 1 , 200 , 000 k had been sent to the Emperor between the sitting of the last and the present Parliament . No attack so direct as this had . ever been made on every thing dear to man ; and though it might be said that Ministers were not to be fettered by that House in a moment of negotiation , yet now that the French were acknowledged to be capable of the accustomed relations of peace and amityand to have snorted the fumes of the indigested

, away blood of their Sovereign , it might be especially useful to exhibit the proud spectacle of a free people treating with a free people , ourselves as jealous of our rights as they could be of theirs . Mr . Wilberforce , Mr . Yorke , the Master of the Rolls , and Lord Hawkesbury vindicated the Minister : Mr . Harrison , Mr . Curwen , and Mr . William Smith renrobated his conduct .

Mr . Fox begged the House not to confound the proper application of the money with the mode of obtainining it . It might be proper or not to send . money to the Emperor , but had the Minister so far abolished the Constitution as to have the right of doing so , without the consent of Parliament ? Against such doctrine he wouldcontend in that House as longas possible , by words ; and otherwise , ifnecessaiv , out of it ; for he was born free , and free he would die . So far he was an incorrigible Jacobin . Mr . Pitt declined any further discussion that niht .

g Mr . Bastard said he would vote for the supplies , without meaning to imply any approbation of the Minister ' s conduct . The House then divided—for the resolution , 164—against it 58—majority 106 . Friday , 9 . The London Docks , Chichester Roads , Scotch Distillery , Excise Additional Duty , and Customs Duty Bills were read a first time . Dudley Canal Bill read a third time and piysed . Mr . Maiming brought in the Bill for forming Wet Docks at Shadwell , for the

accommodation of the trade of London , which being read a first time , he said , that from the report of the Select Committee of last year , the House would be in possession of the necessity that existed for this much wished for improvement . But to enforce the sense of this necessity the stronger , he would mention : i circumstance which latch- came to his knowledge . It was very well known that the Merchants of the City of London were subject to very great losses from the depre-

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