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Difficulty Of Ascertaining The Age Of Undated Old Masonic Mss.

only have mentioned it , but he would also have informed us about the signs and ceremonies ; he would not have contented himself with merely mentioning the repast , gloA r es , and " certain

secret signs , " hut AA ould have described them together with the ceremonies of the three degrees . These ludicrous ceremonies as described in the said MS . ATOUICI have furnished him with the

very materials which . vould have delighted him to criticise and to ridicule . His utter silence upon those topics proves conclusively that he had no kind of knowledge of the nature of the signs and ceremonies of the Craft . All that he did possess , was a ritual like that of the Dowland MS . The

information about the repast , gloves , and church steeple sign , he probably ferretted out of some Mason . The church steeple story was probably a joke of his informant . This steeple story was in 1724 improved by the author of the

Briscoe pamphlet ( reprinted in the Masonic Magazine ) . Thus , page 192 of said Magazine we find as follows : "A member to touch the right leg as he goes along the streets , brings a member ( if he sees him ) from his work on the

top of a steeple . " This pamphlet , though a catch-penny , Avas cleverly spiced , and well written , and two editions of it Avere disposed of . The sharper who imposed the trash on the wifcer of the Sloane MS ., improved the church

steeple , sign , with a crooked pin aad a piece of paper cut into a square . ™ hen the owner of all those secrets found that the Briscoe pamphlet was a success , he bethought himself of Waking a penny out of the information which he purchased , but our would-be author lacked the talent in the art- of

spicing , and ccr . — . u ,..,,, } . „ 0 oull . u ami ^ publisher to risk an investment in Publishing his tasteless rubbish , hence Attained in MS . Sir Hans Sloane » nc > died in 1753 , some-how got hold J it , and placed it among his curiosities . lu s is a mere supposition ; but whether

correct or otherwise , no one can deny the fact , that Plot never saw the said MS ., or anything kindred to it . We IIOAV come to the consideration of the older MS ., viz ., those of HalliAvell and Mathew Cooke . Of the former ,

Mr . HalliAvell says , that it was Avritten not later than the latter part of the 14 fch century . Mr . Eel . A . Bond , keeper of MSS ., and Egerton , librarian in the British Museum , dates that MS . not earlier that the middle of the 15 th

century . Dr . Kloss considers it Avas Avritten betAveen 1427 and 1445 ( Hughan's unpublished records of the Craft ) , and our worthy Bro . Woodford says , that it dates back " unquestionably to A . D . 1390 . " Now , with all due

respect to Bro . Woodford , Ave should like to haA r e his reason for fixing fust that date . Our Brother also expressed an opinion , that the poem is composed of two legends , the first ending with the four hundred and ninety sixth line

, and the second beginning with " Pray Ave UOAV to God almyght , " and he intimates that these IAVO parts AA ere originally written by two distinct persons , and these were joined together in 1390 by the person who wrote the

Museum copy . It seems to us , however , that his reasons for that conjecture are not quite satisfactory . True , there is an apparent break in the poem , and with a little more skill the author might have bridged it over . But yet there is throughout an evident unity of design , so as to leave no doubt that it is the

composition of one and the same individual . That priests used to be attached in olden times to the operative fraternities , and that the author of the poem Avas a Roman Catholic priest , Ave need not demonstrate . Equally certain

it is , that previous to the reputed date " . Jl . ¦¦ ¦ ' ¦ - ^ . vi-itv . a m i ^ tjglaud rhyming chroniclers , and rhyming chronicles , Now , our author , attached to a Lodge as its chaplain , and possessing the gift of rhymingthought proper to

, please himself and the fraternity , by putting into rhyme , the laws and ritual of the Craft ; the former he prefaced v 2

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Monthly Masonic Summary. Article 1
ANCIENT MASONIC LODGES, NO. IV. Article 2
THE OLD MASONIC POEM. Article 5
THE NEW MORALITY. Article 6
UNDER A MASK. Article 7
THE SEASON. Article 11
MASONIC ARCHAEOLOGY. Article 12
THE SPRIG OF ACACIA. Article 14
UNVEILED. Article 15
DIFFICULTY OF ASCERTAINING THE AGE OF UNDATED OLD MASONIC MSS. Article 17
JAM SATIS EST! Article 22
LET THERE BE LIGHT. Article 22
Untitled Article 23
Our Archaeological Corner. Article 24
THE SURVEY OF PALESTINE. Article 24
HOW HE LOST HER. Article 26
OLD AND NEW LODGES. Article 28
BENEFITS OF ADVERTISING. Article 29
ANCIENT CRAFT MASONRY. Article 29
THE GOOD FELLOW. Article 31
TIRED. Article 32
DISTINCTIONS OF LANGUAGE. Article 32
"BROTHERLY LOVE" WEIGHT, AND HIS TRIAL. Article 33
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Difficulty Of Ascertaining The Age Of Undated Old Masonic Mss.

only have mentioned it , but he would also have informed us about the signs and ceremonies ; he would not have contented himself with merely mentioning the repast , gloA r es , and " certain

secret signs , " hut AA ould have described them together with the ceremonies of the three degrees . These ludicrous ceremonies as described in the said MS . ATOUICI have furnished him with the

very materials which . vould have delighted him to criticise and to ridicule . His utter silence upon those topics proves conclusively that he had no kind of knowledge of the nature of the signs and ceremonies of the Craft . All that he did possess , was a ritual like that of the Dowland MS . The

information about the repast , gloves , and church steeple sign , he probably ferretted out of some Mason . The church steeple story was probably a joke of his informant . This steeple story was in 1724 improved by the author of the

Briscoe pamphlet ( reprinted in the Masonic Magazine ) . Thus , page 192 of said Magazine we find as follows : "A member to touch the right leg as he goes along the streets , brings a member ( if he sees him ) from his work on the

top of a steeple . " This pamphlet , though a catch-penny , Avas cleverly spiced , and well written , and two editions of it Avere disposed of . The sharper who imposed the trash on the wifcer of the Sloane MS ., improved the church

steeple , sign , with a crooked pin aad a piece of paper cut into a square . ™ hen the owner of all those secrets found that the Briscoe pamphlet was a success , he bethought himself of Waking a penny out of the information which he purchased , but our would-be author lacked the talent in the art- of

spicing , and ccr . — . u ,..,,, } . „ 0 oull . u ami ^ publisher to risk an investment in Publishing his tasteless rubbish , hence Attained in MS . Sir Hans Sloane » nc > died in 1753 , some-how got hold J it , and placed it among his curiosities . lu s is a mere supposition ; but whether

correct or otherwise , no one can deny the fact , that Plot never saw the said MS ., or anything kindred to it . We IIOAV come to the consideration of the older MS ., viz ., those of HalliAvell and Mathew Cooke . Of the former ,

Mr . HalliAvell says , that it was Avritten not later than the latter part of the 14 fch century . Mr . Eel . A . Bond , keeper of MSS ., and Egerton , librarian in the British Museum , dates that MS . not earlier that the middle of the 15 th

century . Dr . Kloss considers it Avas Avritten betAveen 1427 and 1445 ( Hughan's unpublished records of the Craft ) , and our worthy Bro . Woodford says , that it dates back " unquestionably to A . D . 1390 . " Now , with all due

respect to Bro . Woodford , Ave should like to haA r e his reason for fixing fust that date . Our Brother also expressed an opinion , that the poem is composed of two legends , the first ending with the four hundred and ninety sixth line

, and the second beginning with " Pray Ave UOAV to God almyght , " and he intimates that these IAVO parts AA ere originally written by two distinct persons , and these were joined together in 1390 by the person who wrote the

Museum copy . It seems to us , however , that his reasons for that conjecture are not quite satisfactory . True , there is an apparent break in the poem , and with a little more skill the author might have bridged it over . But yet there is throughout an evident unity of design , so as to leave no doubt that it is the

composition of one and the same individual . That priests used to be attached in olden times to the operative fraternities , and that the author of the poem Avas a Roman Catholic priest , Ave need not demonstrate . Equally certain

it is , that previous to the reputed date " . Jl . ¦¦ ¦ ' ¦ - ^ . vi-itv . a m i ^ tjglaud rhyming chroniclers , and rhyming chronicles , Now , our author , attached to a Lodge as its chaplain , and possessing the gift of rhymingthought proper to

, please himself and the fraternity , by putting into rhyme , the laws and ritual of the Craft ; the former he prefaced v 2

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