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The Templars And Freemasonry.

lt was cosmopolite- The Democratic branch might have many heads , and was , ere long , carried by Freemasons to England and Ireland , and ultimately found its way to North . America ; but it seems never to have been much fostered except in these

countries . " Again , at chap , ii ., p . 32 , we read : — " There is but one Chapter-general and one Grand Master for the whole world ; and from tlie Order laving been suppressed in 1309 in all countries , except Scotland , it shall always be held in that

Langue . " These are very positive statements , and constitute grave and extensive claims ; they ill ¦ consort with the equally positive assertions of Morison , and seem to require that the search for evidence should not sleep . There seems to be no

¦ doubt that at the commencement of this century the Masonic Templars of Scotland were meeting under Irish warrants , and that in 1811 these warrants were abandoned in favour of a charter , dated the 19 th of June in that year , and granted by the Duke of Kent as chief of the Masonic Templars In England .

It appears to me that such searches in the English records , as I have before suggested , are of the highest importance . It would be most desirable that similar searches should be made in Scotland , and that the results of these

investigations should be preserved in print . I have thought it my duty to place these few facts , dates , and . doubts before your readers , in the hope that some of the first may receive additions , some of the last be solved , and that the united power of your many Intelligent correspondents may dissipate the mystery which now surrounds the Masonic Templars .

The Lodge Of Glasgow St. John.

THE LODGE OF GLASGOW ST . JOHN .

By Bro . W . P . BUCHAN , Past . S . W . No . 3 bis , Grand Steward , Grand Lodge of Scotland . ( No 7 , Continued from Page So ) In 2 nd Feby 1858 . " Bro . Cruickshank read

a letter from Bro . Ramage of Edinburgh on the subject of a claim made on behalf of the Aberdeen Lodge , No . 34 to be put No . 3 on the Roll of the ¦ Grand Lodge of Scotland , having held that No . in 1741 , but which claim was rejected . "

Where status is given on account of antiquity of operative lodges , the old lodge of Aberdeen has . good reason to claim No 4 at the least . 9 th Feby . 1858 . " Convened the R . W . M . —

The Lodge Of Glasgow St. John.

Bro . D . Campbell acting—the Wardens and a number of the brethren" & c . A brother was passed and raised . 13 th April 1858 . " Brother Goold moved that the Bellow Craft Mark and Chairingon , the

Master Degree , be given to all brethren of this lodge who desire it , Brother Ramsay seconded the motion which , was unanimously agreed to . Brother Goold proposed and Bro . Craig seconded that a meeting be held on Tuesday the 20 th inst .

to carry out the object of Bro . Goold ' s motion . " " Brother Goold proposed that the brethren who occupy any of the offices in the absence of the officials , their names be mentioned or recorded in tho minutes * Bro . Bamsay made an

amendment , that the minutes be closed as formerly , which was carried by acclamation . On 20 tb . April 1858 . Bro . Winton , Dep . M . in the chair , inter alia " The lodge Avas then raised to the degree of Master Mason , and the following brethren were chaired in Master Degree ,

vizt .: Bros . Gavin Pai-k , John Goold" and 4 others . This minute gave rise to a strong contest with the Prov . G . Lodge , Avho wished it expunged , and the lodge declared to be in the wrong for doino ; so , however the St . John's resisted the

P . G . L . and the case went before Grand Lodge , which held St . John ' s to be duly warranted in doing as it had done . In its ( St . John's ) petition to Grand Lodge , amongst other "blarney" we find the following which would possibly help to

produce the effect intended . " Secuudo . The Grand Lodge of Scotland recognised the Mark Ritual in connection with the Fellow Crafts in the laAvs passed at Holyrood House dated 28 th Deer . 1593 , and no law has been since promulgated

altering the system of Masonry , which has eA ^ er been held to be complete in the three degrees of Apprentice , Fellowcraft and Master " & c . As the Grand Lodge of Scotland did not exist till 1736 , nor our "three degrees" and rituals till after 1716 , I shall leave it to some better sophist

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THE TEMPLARS AND FREEMASONRY. Article 1
THE LODGE OF GLASGOW ST. JOHN. Article 2
THE RISE AND PURPOSES OF SPECULATIVE MASONRY. Article 4
MASONIC JOTTINGS.—No. 6. Article 7
THE STUARTS AND FREEMASONRY. Article 8
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 10
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 11
Untitled Article 12
MASONIC MEMS. Article 12
ROYAL MASONIC BENEVOLENT INSTITUTION FOR AGED FREEMASONS AND THEIR WIDOWS. Article 12
Craft Masonry. Article 13
PROVINCIAL. Article 14
SCOTTISH CONSTITUTION. Article 16
NEW ZEALAND. Article 16
ROYAL ARCH. Article 17
MARK MASONRY. Article 18
MASONIC FESTIVITIES. Article 18
A LECTURE. Article 19
Poetry. Article 19
SCIENTIFIC MEETINGS FOR THE WEEK. Article 19
LIST OF LODGE, MEETINGS, &c., FOR WEEK ENDING 12TH FEBRUARY, 1870. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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The Templars And Freemasonry.

lt was cosmopolite- The Democratic branch might have many heads , and was , ere long , carried by Freemasons to England and Ireland , and ultimately found its way to North . America ; but it seems never to have been much fostered except in these

countries . " Again , at chap , ii ., p . 32 , we read : — " There is but one Chapter-general and one Grand Master for the whole world ; and from tlie Order laving been suppressed in 1309 in all countries , except Scotland , it shall always be held in that

Langue . " These are very positive statements , and constitute grave and extensive claims ; they ill ¦ consort with the equally positive assertions of Morison , and seem to require that the search for evidence should not sleep . There seems to be no

¦ doubt that at the commencement of this century the Masonic Templars of Scotland were meeting under Irish warrants , and that in 1811 these warrants were abandoned in favour of a charter , dated the 19 th of June in that year , and granted by the Duke of Kent as chief of the Masonic Templars In England .

It appears to me that such searches in the English records , as I have before suggested , are of the highest importance . It would be most desirable that similar searches should be made in Scotland , and that the results of these

investigations should be preserved in print . I have thought it my duty to place these few facts , dates , and . doubts before your readers , in the hope that some of the first may receive additions , some of the last be solved , and that the united power of your many Intelligent correspondents may dissipate the mystery which now surrounds the Masonic Templars .

The Lodge Of Glasgow St. John.

THE LODGE OF GLASGOW ST . JOHN .

By Bro . W . P . BUCHAN , Past . S . W . No . 3 bis , Grand Steward , Grand Lodge of Scotland . ( No 7 , Continued from Page So ) In 2 nd Feby 1858 . " Bro . Cruickshank read

a letter from Bro . Ramage of Edinburgh on the subject of a claim made on behalf of the Aberdeen Lodge , No . 34 to be put No . 3 on the Roll of the ¦ Grand Lodge of Scotland , having held that No . in 1741 , but which claim was rejected . "

Where status is given on account of antiquity of operative lodges , the old lodge of Aberdeen has . good reason to claim No 4 at the least . 9 th Feby . 1858 . " Convened the R . W . M . —

The Lodge Of Glasgow St. John.

Bro . D . Campbell acting—the Wardens and a number of the brethren" & c . A brother was passed and raised . 13 th April 1858 . " Brother Goold moved that the Bellow Craft Mark and Chairingon , the

Master Degree , be given to all brethren of this lodge who desire it , Brother Ramsay seconded the motion which , was unanimously agreed to . Brother Goold proposed and Bro . Craig seconded that a meeting be held on Tuesday the 20 th inst .

to carry out the object of Bro . Goold ' s motion . " " Brother Goold proposed that the brethren who occupy any of the offices in the absence of the officials , their names be mentioned or recorded in tho minutes * Bro . Bamsay made an

amendment , that the minutes be closed as formerly , which was carried by acclamation . On 20 tb . April 1858 . Bro . Winton , Dep . M . in the chair , inter alia " The lodge Avas then raised to the degree of Master Mason , and the following brethren were chaired in Master Degree ,

vizt .: Bros . Gavin Pai-k , John Goold" and 4 others . This minute gave rise to a strong contest with the Prov . G . Lodge , Avho wished it expunged , and the lodge declared to be in the wrong for doino ; so , however the St . John's resisted the

P . G . L . and the case went before Grand Lodge , which held St . John ' s to be duly warranted in doing as it had done . In its ( St . John's ) petition to Grand Lodge , amongst other "blarney" we find the following which would possibly help to

produce the effect intended . " Secuudo . The Grand Lodge of Scotland recognised the Mark Ritual in connection with the Fellow Crafts in the laAvs passed at Holyrood House dated 28 th Deer . 1593 , and no law has been since promulgated

altering the system of Masonry , which has eA ^ er been held to be complete in the three degrees of Apprentice , Fellowcraft and Master " & c . As the Grand Lodge of Scotland did not exist till 1736 , nor our "three degrees" and rituals till after 1716 , I shall leave it to some better sophist

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