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The Week.

firmed by the Bishop of Lincoln . The motion was agreed to , Lord Grauville , however , expressing his belief that the case was not so bad as represented by Lord Shaftesbury . —The Marquis of Westmeath , who appears to have taken the Protestant faith under his special protection , raised a short discussion on Mr-Wagner ' s objection to break the " seal of confession , " at Trowbridge , and on the alleged excessive ritualism by which the

services at some of the metropolitan churches are marked . Several bills were advanced a stage . On Monday , the grievances of the Indian officers formed the subject of a discussion , in the course of which Lord Dufferin ( the Under Secretary for India ) stated that a commission would be appointed to enquire how far the recommendations of the previous

Commission had been carried out . In reply to a question from Lord Wicklow , Lord Granville said tlie Government had under consideration the subject of a more thorough checking of the accounts of the public departments . —Lord Houghton asked whether the Government intended to withdraw the " concession" of belligerent rights to the Confederate States . Lord

Russell said there never had been any " concession "—it was a matter of right from the moment the blockade of the Southern coast was proclaimed . It was impossible , he said , to answer Lord Houghton ' s question until they saw what course the Government of Washington intended to take . On Tuesday , tho Duke of Somerset , in reply to a question , said it was

proposed to abolish the rank of Master in the royal navy—a measure strongly objected to by Lord Hardwicke . The Utilisation of Sewage Bill was read a second time , and several other measures advanced a stage . In the HOUSE OF COJOIOSS on Thursday , the 11 th , on the order for going into Committee on the Union Chargeability Bill , Mr . Bentinck moved tiiat it be an instruction to the

Committee , with a view to rendering the working of the system of Union chargeability more just and equal , to facilitate in certain cases the alteration of the limits of existing Unions . Mr . Packo seconded the motion , and an animated debate ensued . Upon a division , the motion of Mr . Bentinck was negatived by 193 to US . —Mr . Thompson then moved that the Bill he referred to a select committee , which was seconded by Mr .

Ferrand , and another debate ensued . On a division , the motion for adjournment was negatived by 174 to SO . —Mr . Lygon then moved the adjournment of the House . This was negatived , but subsequently the debate was adjourned until Monday next . The other business on tho paper was disposed of , and the House adjourned . On Friday Mr . Cave called attention to the

allowance to postmasters in respect of Post-Odiee Savings Banks , and moved that , in the opinion of this House , it is neither just nor expedient that labour and responsibility should be imposed upon public servants without adequate remuneration . —Mr . Ayrton said there had been a loss of G 0 , O 0 G 7 . on Government Savings' Banks , and therefore they ought not to encourage any

additional expenditure on their behalf . —Mr . Peel thought it was reasonable that persons should receive additional remuneration for additional duties , but that was now done under the Post-Office Savings' Bank system , but it was not desirable that post-masters should have an interest in larger as against smaller deposits . After some discussion the matter dropped . The

House went into Supply , which occupied the rest of tho sitting . ¦ On Monday Mr . Whalley gave notice of his intention to move for a select committee , to inquire into the manner in which the services at St . Paul's Church , Brighton , are conducted by Mr . Wagner , the clergyman to whom Miss Constance Kent made her terrible confession . Mr . Ferrand asked whether Mr . H . S . Wilde , lately registrar of the Leeds Bankruptcy Court , was called upon to resign his oflice , and , having refused , was

then " informed that if he would resign at once and obtain a medical certificate he should have a pension of 6002 . a . year , although he was then iu a good state of health ; " whether the medical certificate was obtained and the pension granted ; whether Mr . Wilde was not succeeded by Mr . Welch , who was then in a precarious state of health ; and whether it was not arranged that Mr . Welch should hold the appointment until the outlawry

of the Hon . Richard Bethell was reversed . The Attorney-General replied that Mr . Wilde was not called on to resign , hut to answer some complaints of irregularities—not , however , amounting to " personal or pecuniary defalcation "—iu his office . The Chief Registrar was informed that Mr . Wilde ' s health was not good , and he was allowed to resign on a pension of - £ 600

upon his own petition , supported by a medical certificate . As to the charge of Mr . Welch having been appointed as a mere warming-pan for the convenience of Mr . Bethell , it was explained that his appointment took place in July J while the Lord . Chancellor ' s heir was not outlawed until December . Mr . Welch had been strongly recommended to the Lord Chancellor by the

late Sir William Atherton and other members of the Northern , Circuit ; and his lordship was not aware that he was in a delicate state of health . When Mr . Bethell resigned the registrarship in London , the Lord Chancellor positively refused to transfer him to Leeds , and to give the appointment to Mr . Welch . — Mr . White put a question relative to the Confederate States

similar to that addressed to the Government by Lord Houghton in the Upper House ; and Lord Palmerston ' s reply was of course to the same effect as Lord Russell ' s . —The debate on the Union Chargeability Bill was resumed by Mr . Henley , who strongly opposed the measure . He was followed by Mr . Bruce , Mr . Peacocke , and other members . Ultimately , the hill was allowed to go into Committee by a majority of 266 to 93 . On

Tuesday , Lord Ilartington , in reply to Mr . Hussoy Vivian , said the Government had not yet come to any definite decision on the subject of converting Enfield rifles into breech-loaders . In reply to Lord Stanley , Mr . Cardwell said no fresh war had broken out at Lagos . The recent hostilities were merely a continuation of the old dispute , and were justified on the ground

that an invasion of British territory was threatened . The Attorney-General stated , in reply to a question from Mr . Cox , that it was hopeless to expect to pass a bill this session for the amendment of the patent laws . Tho hon . and learned gentleman also slated that he bad received a letter from Mr . Welch confirming the . accuracy of the explanation he gave on the

previous day respecting the appointment of that gentleman to the registrarship of the Leeds Bankruptcy Court . A discussion was raised by Mr . Arthur Mills upon the regulations for the examination of candidates for the Indian Civil Service . Lord Stanley , among other members , urged that the present system required reform , while Sir Charles Wood stated that

effortswere being made to obviate the most objectionable results of a scheme which necessarily led to a good deal of what is known as " cramming . " The House was counted out during a discussion on bankruptcy law reform . On Wednesday , Mr . Monsell moved the seconding reading of the bill for the repeal of the oaths which the Irish Roman Catholics consider so "

obnoxious . " Mr . Lefroy moved as an amendment that the bill be read a second time that day six months ; and he found a seconder iu the member for Peterborough . Sir George Grey and another member of the Government—Mr . Chichester Fortescue—supported the bill , which was opposed by Mr . Whiteside and Mr . Walpole . After some further discussion the House divided , when the second reading was carried by a majority of 5 G . The numbers were 190 for , and 13-1 against . GENUAL HOME NEWS . —The health of the country is still

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HISTORICAL SKETCH OF MASONIC EVENTS DURING 1864. Article 1
THE MAJESTY OF ARCHITECTURE. Article 2
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 4
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 7
CAUTION.—AN ITINERANT MASON. Article 7
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 8
METROPOLITAN. Article 8
PROVINCIAL. Article 8
ROYAL ARCH. Article 9
MARK MASONRY. Article 10
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 10
SOUTH AMERICA. Article 12
INDIA. Article 13
CHINA. Article 14
Obituary. Article 15
LITERARY EXTRACTS. Article 16
Poetry. Article 16
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 17
THE WEEK. Article 17
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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The Week.

firmed by the Bishop of Lincoln . The motion was agreed to , Lord Grauville , however , expressing his belief that the case was not so bad as represented by Lord Shaftesbury . —The Marquis of Westmeath , who appears to have taken the Protestant faith under his special protection , raised a short discussion on Mr-Wagner ' s objection to break the " seal of confession , " at Trowbridge , and on the alleged excessive ritualism by which the

services at some of the metropolitan churches are marked . Several bills were advanced a stage . On Monday , the grievances of the Indian officers formed the subject of a discussion , in the course of which Lord Dufferin ( the Under Secretary for India ) stated that a commission would be appointed to enquire how far the recommendations of the previous

Commission had been carried out . In reply to a question from Lord Wicklow , Lord Granville said tlie Government had under consideration the subject of a more thorough checking of the accounts of the public departments . —Lord Houghton asked whether the Government intended to withdraw the " concession" of belligerent rights to the Confederate States . Lord

Russell said there never had been any " concession "—it was a matter of right from the moment the blockade of the Southern coast was proclaimed . It was impossible , he said , to answer Lord Houghton ' s question until they saw what course the Government of Washington intended to take . On Tuesday , tho Duke of Somerset , in reply to a question , said it was

proposed to abolish the rank of Master in the royal navy—a measure strongly objected to by Lord Hardwicke . The Utilisation of Sewage Bill was read a second time , and several other measures advanced a stage . In the HOUSE OF COJOIOSS on Thursday , the 11 th , on the order for going into Committee on the Union Chargeability Bill , Mr . Bentinck moved tiiat it be an instruction to the

Committee , with a view to rendering the working of the system of Union chargeability more just and equal , to facilitate in certain cases the alteration of the limits of existing Unions . Mr . Packo seconded the motion , and an animated debate ensued . Upon a division , the motion of Mr . Bentinck was negatived by 193 to US . —Mr . Thompson then moved that the Bill he referred to a select committee , which was seconded by Mr .

Ferrand , and another debate ensued . On a division , the motion for adjournment was negatived by 174 to SO . —Mr . Lygon then moved the adjournment of the House . This was negatived , but subsequently the debate was adjourned until Monday next . The other business on tho paper was disposed of , and the House adjourned . On Friday Mr . Cave called attention to the

allowance to postmasters in respect of Post-Odiee Savings Banks , and moved that , in the opinion of this House , it is neither just nor expedient that labour and responsibility should be imposed upon public servants without adequate remuneration . —Mr . Ayrton said there had been a loss of G 0 , O 0 G 7 . on Government Savings' Banks , and therefore they ought not to encourage any

additional expenditure on their behalf . —Mr . Peel thought it was reasonable that persons should receive additional remuneration for additional duties , but that was now done under the Post-Office Savings' Bank system , but it was not desirable that post-masters should have an interest in larger as against smaller deposits . After some discussion the matter dropped . The

House went into Supply , which occupied the rest of tho sitting . ¦ On Monday Mr . Whalley gave notice of his intention to move for a select committee , to inquire into the manner in which the services at St . Paul's Church , Brighton , are conducted by Mr . Wagner , the clergyman to whom Miss Constance Kent made her terrible confession . Mr . Ferrand asked whether Mr . H . S . Wilde , lately registrar of the Leeds Bankruptcy Court , was called upon to resign his oflice , and , having refused , was

then " informed that if he would resign at once and obtain a medical certificate he should have a pension of 6002 . a . year , although he was then iu a good state of health ; " whether the medical certificate was obtained and the pension granted ; whether Mr . Wilde was not succeeded by Mr . Welch , who was then in a precarious state of health ; and whether it was not arranged that Mr . Welch should hold the appointment until the outlawry

of the Hon . Richard Bethell was reversed . The Attorney-General replied that Mr . Wilde was not called on to resign , hut to answer some complaints of irregularities—not , however , amounting to " personal or pecuniary defalcation "—iu his office . The Chief Registrar was informed that Mr . Wilde ' s health was not good , and he was allowed to resign on a pension of - £ 600

upon his own petition , supported by a medical certificate . As to the charge of Mr . Welch having been appointed as a mere warming-pan for the convenience of Mr . Bethell , it was explained that his appointment took place in July J while the Lord . Chancellor ' s heir was not outlawed until December . Mr . Welch had been strongly recommended to the Lord Chancellor by the

late Sir William Atherton and other members of the Northern , Circuit ; and his lordship was not aware that he was in a delicate state of health . When Mr . Bethell resigned the registrarship in London , the Lord Chancellor positively refused to transfer him to Leeds , and to give the appointment to Mr . Welch . — Mr . White put a question relative to the Confederate States

similar to that addressed to the Government by Lord Houghton in the Upper House ; and Lord Palmerston ' s reply was of course to the same effect as Lord Russell ' s . —The debate on the Union Chargeability Bill was resumed by Mr . Henley , who strongly opposed the measure . He was followed by Mr . Bruce , Mr . Peacocke , and other members . Ultimately , the hill was allowed to go into Committee by a majority of 266 to 93 . On

Tuesday , Lord Ilartington , in reply to Mr . Hussoy Vivian , said the Government had not yet come to any definite decision on the subject of converting Enfield rifles into breech-loaders . In reply to Lord Stanley , Mr . Cardwell said no fresh war had broken out at Lagos . The recent hostilities were merely a continuation of the old dispute , and were justified on the ground

that an invasion of British territory was threatened . The Attorney-General stated , in reply to a question from Mr . Cox , that it was hopeless to expect to pass a bill this session for the amendment of the patent laws . Tho hon . and learned gentleman also slated that he bad received a letter from Mr . Welch confirming the . accuracy of the explanation he gave on the

previous day respecting the appointment of that gentleman to the registrarship of the Leeds Bankruptcy Court . A discussion was raised by Mr . Arthur Mills upon the regulations for the examination of candidates for the Indian Civil Service . Lord Stanley , among other members , urged that the present system required reform , while Sir Charles Wood stated that

effortswere being made to obviate the most objectionable results of a scheme which necessarily led to a good deal of what is known as " cramming . " The House was counted out during a discussion on bankruptcy law reform . On Wednesday , Mr . Monsell moved the seconding reading of the bill for the repeal of the oaths which the Irish Roman Catholics consider so "

obnoxious . " Mr . Lefroy moved as an amendment that the bill be read a second time that day six months ; and he found a seconder iu the member for Peterborough . Sir George Grey and another member of the Government—Mr . Chichester Fortescue—supported the bill , which was opposed by Mr . Whiteside and Mr . Walpole . After some further discussion the House divided , when the second reading was carried by a majority of 5 G . The numbers were 190 for , and 13-1 against . GENUAL HOME NEWS . —The health of the country is still

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