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Masonic Notes And Queries.

the man we are seeking . We find him as a hoy at Westminster , one of the King ' s scholars , and elected to proceed from thence to Oxford , in 1657 . The Editor adds" T . Knipe , usher of Westminster School , 1661 ; second Master , 1663 ; head Master , 1695 ; Prebendary of Westminster , 1707 ; died 1711 , aged 73 . B . A ., 1660 ; M . A ., 1663 , five of his terms being dispensed with during the

time ' he did attend in his Majesty ' s School at AVestminster . ' He laboured in the school for fifty j-ears . He accumulated the degrees of B . D . and D . D ., July 3 , 1695 . It has been said that Dr . Busby did not duly appreciate Dr . Knipe ' s merits as second Master ; but it is no small praise to the latter that he made a respectable successor to that eminent instructor of youth ; he was much

respected and beloved by his pupils , as is shown by the manner in which he is mentioned by Maittaire in his Greek Dialects , who talks of him as one ' cui se sua omnia debare fatetuv , ' and likewise by Dr . W . King , in his dedication to him of the Historical Account of tlie Heathen Cods . He ( lied at Hampstead , on the 6 th of August , & c . Knipe published AiroWoSibpoy ruv ' k . 8 r \ valov Tpapfiarucov $ ifi \ wti-i ) K-

% irep ! QsSiy BiSMov & 0 . In iisum Scholar Westmonast . Lend . 1686 ; and Hebraicas Gi-ainmatic _ e Rudimenta , Oxon . 1708 . There is a print of him from a picture by Dhall , 1696 . " There are several other mentions of him and his family in the same volume , which are not necessary to insert here , but to prove that he was something more than a myth , I append tho matter , which the Editor ,

amongst other documents , gives a fac-simile of , it is dated " Febr . 7 , 1663 . Borrowd then of Dr . Eichd . Busby the sume of thirty pownds to be paid againe to Him vpon demaund , by me , Tho . Snipe . " Enough has been here advanced to give a clue to letters of his contemporaries and others in which , holding the position he did for many years , there must be frequent allusions to , and notices of him .- —MATTHEW COOKE .

DB . KNIPE . In answer to " M . A ., Oxon , " I beg to say that I used the appellation of " Dr . Thomas Knipe , " just as the writer of the preface to the History of Berkshire uses it . Seemingly , like Bro . Hyde Clarke , my attention had been attracted to the professed extract then given , of a letter from Dr . Thomas Knipe , of Christchurcb , which

is to to the effect that he , Dr . Knipe , had seen certain collections of Elias Ashmole towards a history of Masonry , which collections havo hitherto evaded research . One of the present officers of the Bodleian , in answer to my queries , says , " we have no letters of Knipe ' s in the Bodleian . The man you allude to must be Mr . Richard Knipe , if he wrote his letter to Curl . Dr .

Thomas Knipe died too early in 1711 . " I cannot indeed , inform "M . A ., Oxon , " when Thomas Knipe took his Doctor ' s degree , or in what faculty , if any ; but I give him the authority on which I , not unnaturally , continued the appellation which . Aubrey had given him , of "Dr . Thomas Knipe . "—A . F . A . WOODFOED . Swillington , Leeds .

BROTHER WATSON S CIIABGE AT CLOSING A LODGE . Bro . AV . AVatson frequently delivers a charge at closing a lodge , beginning , ' ' You are now about to quit this sacred retreat . " Is it part of our ceremony , and from whence is it derived ?—A LONDON W . M . —[ It is no part of our ritual as promulgated by authority . It is the production of Bro . Thaddeus Mason Harrisand first

, printed by him in his edition of the Booh of Constitutions , prepared for , and sanctioned by the Grand Lodge of Massachusetts , which was printed at Worcester in the United States , in 1792 . The copy before us contains , in addition to the old charges , " A charge at the opening of a lodge , " no author ' s name given . " A charge at the closing of a lodge . [ By Brother T . M . H . ] " " A charge

at initiation into the first degree . " Very similar to that in Preston . "A charge to a newly admitted Mason . " " A charge at initiation into the second degree . " "A charge at initiation into the third degree . " " Charge to a

Master at his Installation . " " Charge to a Grand Master at his Installation . " "Addresses to be added to the usual charges : — 'At Initiation of a Clergyman ; ' ' At Initiation of a Foreigner ; ' ' At Initiation of a Soldier . " Then come various pra ) T ers on similar occasions , and different ceremonies . ]

UNLAWFUL CEBE 3 I 0 NIES . "Delta" is not satisfied with my explanations at page 396 of "Memoires Historiques sur les Templiers . " published at Paris in 1805 . The 205 th witness , Hugues de Narsac , Prior of Epanes , in Saintoage , declares " that an abuse added to an innocent ceremonial has given place to the demand to deny God , made to a new brother . This was a proof of unlimited obedience . " Tho 171 st

witness , p . 392 , declares " that these abuses had commenced after the death of the Grand Master , AVilhnm de Beanjeu . " The 124 th witness , p . 388 , AVilliam de Liege , Prior of Kochelle , aged 80 years , declares " that his reception ( very ancient ) had been irreproachable . " "He has not denied , nor has ever seen any one deny God ; but he admits that he has heard of . these denials

foiabout 50 years , but during that time he has avoided assistance at the receptions . '' Audebert , the 204 th witness , p . 396 , " looks upon the denial and the spitting as a practice then recognised by all the Order . " Almost all say that there were abuses introduced by William of Beanjeu . " Delta " will find much the same evidence in Rymer ' s Federa as regards the English Templars . — EBOR .

KNIGHT TEJIPLAES 1 VAKEANT . Amongst the miscellaneous properties of my lodge , there is an old K . T . warrant , dated 10 th October , 1786 . On referring to the British , Irish , and Colonial Calendar , I find no earlier date of an existing warrant than 1791 , and thinking the one in question may possess some interest for those who have taken the K . T . degree , I send

you a transcript . The original is on a species of prepared linen , and all in manuscript ; the seal appears to have been removed when the warrant was framed . ZSTofc having taken the K . T . degree , I do not know whether the copy enclosed is in the ordinary form , or whether it is worthy of preservation ; at any rate , you are at liberty to make any use of it you may think fit . —H . B . AVHITE , W . M . Lodge of Lights ( No . 173 ) .

"In the name of the Most Glorious Self-existing Lord God . "EDWAIU . AVOLLEY , G . G . C . No . 15 . " We , for the time being , the G . G . C . of the G . R . E . of AU England , held at York , do , by the power and authority vested in us from the earliest ages of C . K ., and derived to us from the successors of that worthy S . K . T ., S . G . B . the first O . K . of Jerusalem , in our great love to the Order of S . K . T ., and in

compliance with tho humble petition of Sir John Hassall , Sir Joseph Cartev , and Sir James Ashton , and others , all S . K . T . 's , praying our authority , constitution , and warrant to hold a __ .. __!_ . of S . K . T . in Manchester , in the County Palatine of Lancaster ,, or elsewhere , do grant this our warrant for holding such R . E .. in any convenient place in Manchester aforesaid , or elsewhere . , in the same county , according to the ancient usages and customs of ail legal R . E . ; and they and their successorsalways observing

, clue subordination and acknowledgment , are hereby authorised , and empowered to hold a R . E . of S . K . T ., and to continue it by succession to perpetual ages ; and by the authority so vested in us , we do hereby nominate and constitute our T . and AV . B . B ., all S . K . T ., John Hassall , Joseph Carter , and James Ashton , to be present G . C . thereof , each in order as named ; and we do herebinvest them with full power to nominate aud instal their

y succeeding G . C , and those their succeeding G . C , and so on inperpetual succession ; and such G . C , from time to time , are hereby empowered and authorised by their known ancl secret methods to make ancl admit such worthy brethren S . K . T . as are regular and properly qualified to receive such order and dignity ; and also to receive into their R . E . such as were worthy and regular S . K . T . before , and to expel from their E . E . such as , by

their dishonourable behaviour , untaught themselves , or merit expulsion ; and also to convene the K . of the E .. E . at their pleasure , and when right shall require it ; and , likewise , to deliver certificates to all worthy S . K . T . ; and we , the G . G . C .

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ANTIQUITY OF MASONIC DEGREES. Article 1
CHRONOLOGY VIEWED THROUGH THE MEDIUM OF ASTRONOMY AND FREEMASONRY. MASONRY. Article 2
NEW MATERIALS FOR THE LIFE OF JOHN FLAXMAN, R.A. Article 3
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 5
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 7
METROPOLITAN. Article 8
PROVINCIAL. Article 11
SCOTLAND. Article 14
MARK MASONRY. Article 15
ROYAL ARCH. Article 16
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 16
MASONIC FESTIVITIES. Article 16
WEST INDIES. Article 16
THE WEEK. Article 18
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

the man we are seeking . We find him as a hoy at Westminster , one of the King ' s scholars , and elected to proceed from thence to Oxford , in 1657 . The Editor adds" T . Knipe , usher of Westminster School , 1661 ; second Master , 1663 ; head Master , 1695 ; Prebendary of Westminster , 1707 ; died 1711 , aged 73 . B . A ., 1660 ; M . A ., 1663 , five of his terms being dispensed with during the

time ' he did attend in his Majesty ' s School at AVestminster . ' He laboured in the school for fifty j-ears . He accumulated the degrees of B . D . and D . D ., July 3 , 1695 . It has been said that Dr . Busby did not duly appreciate Dr . Knipe ' s merits as second Master ; but it is no small praise to the latter that he made a respectable successor to that eminent instructor of youth ; he was much

respected and beloved by his pupils , as is shown by the manner in which he is mentioned by Maittaire in his Greek Dialects , who talks of him as one ' cui se sua omnia debare fatetuv , ' and likewise by Dr . W . King , in his dedication to him of the Historical Account of tlie Heathen Cods . He ( lied at Hampstead , on the 6 th of August , & c . Knipe published AiroWoSibpoy ruv ' k . 8 r \ valov Tpapfiarucov $ ifi \ wti-i ) K-

% irep ! QsSiy BiSMov & 0 . In iisum Scholar Westmonast . Lend . 1686 ; and Hebraicas Gi-ainmatic _ e Rudimenta , Oxon . 1708 . There is a print of him from a picture by Dhall , 1696 . " There are several other mentions of him and his family in the same volume , which are not necessary to insert here , but to prove that he was something more than a myth , I append tho matter , which the Editor ,

amongst other documents , gives a fac-simile of , it is dated " Febr . 7 , 1663 . Borrowd then of Dr . Eichd . Busby the sume of thirty pownds to be paid againe to Him vpon demaund , by me , Tho . Snipe . " Enough has been here advanced to give a clue to letters of his contemporaries and others in which , holding the position he did for many years , there must be frequent allusions to , and notices of him .- —MATTHEW COOKE .

DB . KNIPE . In answer to " M . A ., Oxon , " I beg to say that I used the appellation of " Dr . Thomas Knipe , " just as the writer of the preface to the History of Berkshire uses it . Seemingly , like Bro . Hyde Clarke , my attention had been attracted to the professed extract then given , of a letter from Dr . Thomas Knipe , of Christchurcb , which

is to to the effect that he , Dr . Knipe , had seen certain collections of Elias Ashmole towards a history of Masonry , which collections havo hitherto evaded research . One of the present officers of the Bodleian , in answer to my queries , says , " we have no letters of Knipe ' s in the Bodleian . The man you allude to must be Mr . Richard Knipe , if he wrote his letter to Curl . Dr .

Thomas Knipe died too early in 1711 . " I cannot indeed , inform "M . A ., Oxon , " when Thomas Knipe took his Doctor ' s degree , or in what faculty , if any ; but I give him the authority on which I , not unnaturally , continued the appellation which . Aubrey had given him , of "Dr . Thomas Knipe . "—A . F . A . WOODFOED . Swillington , Leeds .

BROTHER WATSON S CIIABGE AT CLOSING A LODGE . Bro . AV . AVatson frequently delivers a charge at closing a lodge , beginning , ' ' You are now about to quit this sacred retreat . " Is it part of our ceremony , and from whence is it derived ?—A LONDON W . M . —[ It is no part of our ritual as promulgated by authority . It is the production of Bro . Thaddeus Mason Harrisand first

, printed by him in his edition of the Booh of Constitutions , prepared for , and sanctioned by the Grand Lodge of Massachusetts , which was printed at Worcester in the United States , in 1792 . The copy before us contains , in addition to the old charges , " A charge at the opening of a lodge , " no author ' s name given . " A charge at the closing of a lodge . [ By Brother T . M . H . ] " " A charge

at initiation into the first degree . " Very similar to that in Preston . "A charge to a newly admitted Mason . " " A charge at initiation into the second degree . " "A charge at initiation into the third degree . " " Charge to a

Master at his Installation . " " Charge to a Grand Master at his Installation . " "Addresses to be added to the usual charges : — 'At Initiation of a Clergyman ; ' ' At Initiation of a Foreigner ; ' ' At Initiation of a Soldier . " Then come various pra ) T ers on similar occasions , and different ceremonies . ]

UNLAWFUL CEBE 3 I 0 NIES . "Delta" is not satisfied with my explanations at page 396 of "Memoires Historiques sur les Templiers . " published at Paris in 1805 . The 205 th witness , Hugues de Narsac , Prior of Epanes , in Saintoage , declares " that an abuse added to an innocent ceremonial has given place to the demand to deny God , made to a new brother . This was a proof of unlimited obedience . " Tho 171 st

witness , p . 392 , declares " that these abuses had commenced after the death of the Grand Master , AVilhnm de Beanjeu . " The 124 th witness , p . 388 , AVilliam de Liege , Prior of Kochelle , aged 80 years , declares " that his reception ( very ancient ) had been irreproachable . " "He has not denied , nor has ever seen any one deny God ; but he admits that he has heard of . these denials

foiabout 50 years , but during that time he has avoided assistance at the receptions . '' Audebert , the 204 th witness , p . 396 , " looks upon the denial and the spitting as a practice then recognised by all the Order . " Almost all say that there were abuses introduced by William of Beanjeu . " Delta " will find much the same evidence in Rymer ' s Federa as regards the English Templars . — EBOR .

KNIGHT TEJIPLAES 1 VAKEANT . Amongst the miscellaneous properties of my lodge , there is an old K . T . warrant , dated 10 th October , 1786 . On referring to the British , Irish , and Colonial Calendar , I find no earlier date of an existing warrant than 1791 , and thinking the one in question may possess some interest for those who have taken the K . T . degree , I send

you a transcript . The original is on a species of prepared linen , and all in manuscript ; the seal appears to have been removed when the warrant was framed . ZSTofc having taken the K . T . degree , I do not know whether the copy enclosed is in the ordinary form , or whether it is worthy of preservation ; at any rate , you are at liberty to make any use of it you may think fit . —H . B . AVHITE , W . M . Lodge of Lights ( No . 173 ) .

"In the name of the Most Glorious Self-existing Lord God . "EDWAIU . AVOLLEY , G . G . C . No . 15 . " We , for the time being , the G . G . C . of the G . R . E . of AU England , held at York , do , by the power and authority vested in us from the earliest ages of C . K ., and derived to us from the successors of that worthy S . K . T ., S . G . B . the first O . K . of Jerusalem , in our great love to the Order of S . K . T ., and in

compliance with tho humble petition of Sir John Hassall , Sir Joseph Cartev , and Sir James Ashton , and others , all S . K . T . 's , praying our authority , constitution , and warrant to hold a __ .. __!_ . of S . K . T . in Manchester , in the County Palatine of Lancaster ,, or elsewhere , do grant this our warrant for holding such R . E .. in any convenient place in Manchester aforesaid , or elsewhere . , in the same county , according to the ancient usages and customs of ail legal R . E . ; and they and their successorsalways observing

, clue subordination and acknowledgment , are hereby authorised , and empowered to hold a R . E . of S . K . T ., and to continue it by succession to perpetual ages ; and by the authority so vested in us , we do hereby nominate and constitute our T . and AV . B . B ., all S . K . T ., John Hassall , Joseph Carter , and James Ashton , to be present G . C . thereof , each in order as named ; and we do herebinvest them with full power to nominate aud instal their

y succeeding G . C , and those their succeeding G . C , and so on inperpetual succession ; and such G . C , from time to time , are hereby empowered and authorised by their known ancl secret methods to make ancl admit such worthy brethren S . K . T . as are regular and properly qualified to receive such order and dignity ; and also to receive into their R . E . such as were worthy and regular S . K . T . before , and to expel from their E . E . such as , by

their dishonourable behaviour , untaught themselves , or merit expulsion ; and also to convene the K . of the E .. E . at their pleasure , and when right shall require it ; and , likewise , to deliver certificates to all worthy S . K . T . ; and we , the G . G . C .

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