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Her Majesty's Father On. Masonic Templary.

Masonic correspondence amongst them , and , if so , no doubt a respectful application would be met with a permission to take copies of them . Who can tell where Dunckcrley ' s portrait , for which the Prince returns thanks , is to be seen now ?

Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

THE HIGH GBADES UT 1731 . Within a very few days a charter , empowering certain high grade Ereemasons to confer the Rose Croix aud 30 th degraes , dated 1721 , and signed by Prince Charles Edward Stuart ( James III . as he was called by his adherents in 1715 ) , with a very perfect seal of the chapter of Arraswas placed in my hands as a curiosity worth

, y of attention . Its possessor has also , in his collection , several letters of Charles I ., in which Freemasonry is distinctly mentioned . I am not at liberty , at present , to say more , but I hope this note will be acceptable to Delta who has written so learnedly and conclusively on the antiquity of Masonic degrees . —MATTHEW COOKE .

ANCIENT l'OKK MASONS . Aii old Masonic writer says " the ancient York Masons and their constitution , was entirely drojDt at the revival of the English Grand Lodge in 1717 . " By whom was the York rite dropped , so entirely except by Sayer , Desaguliers , and Co . ? Was not York Masonry English Masonry ? The inference to be drawn from the

quotation above is , that it was not . The Yorkshire brethren of the present day are said to be the most bright of all Masons , does this follow from their being the descendants and countrymen of the old York Masons ? - —J . T . W . — [ The York rite has never been dropped , it is in dailyuse aud flourishing in more than half the universe . The passage is ambiguous , the writer intended to make the

Grand Lodge of 1717 the Grand Lodge of England , in opposition to the Grand Lodge of York , and expressed himself so awkwardly as to produce a momentary doubt , such as occurred to J . T . W ., but his meaning cannot really bo misunderstood . There is no question as to the Masonic talent of the Yorkshire brethren , but there are , in every province , quite as bright Masons as they , and as to their connection with the old York rite it is as nothing . ]

THE MAINWAIIINGS . A brother some time ago made inquiry respecting tho Mainwarings : — " The only child of Joshua Radclifl ' e , Esq ., of Todmorden , married Roger Mainwaring , of Kerringliam , in the county of Chester , who dissipated the possessions , and , about the year 1700 , sold the Todmorden estates . " —Baines . A .

SUPPRESSION 01 ? RELIGIOUS ESTABLISHMENTS . In a short account of York , I find the following respecting the " Pilgrims of Grace , " which account is extracted chiefly from Graud Master Drake ' s Eboracum ; it may help us to a proper understanding of the secret meetings and secret methods of the York brotherhood , as well as the interference of Elizabeth in 1561 ( two years after the

second dissolution of the Order of St . John ) . Was the Order of St . John revived at York during the reign of Mary ? Could any brother give me proof , previously to 1787 , that York Templary included the Order of St . John ? This is denied by some , whilst on the other hand it appears probable such was the case ; and wherever the York degrees are practised , the two Orders are

united ; under any circumstances the Templars must have been the predominant element in the North . I trust no attempt will be made to make the Order of Malta a higher degree , as the Templars were always considered the more noble order . Judging from the minutes of the Scotisk lodges , previously to Bro . Desaguliar ' s visit to Edinburgh , the meetings in the crypt could not apply to a craft lodge . Also , I would observe that if our present ceremonies were

possessed by the craft masons , our master ' s degree , according to the minutes and even to tbe sense of its own legend , must necessarily havo been the Fellows' Ceremony . What , then , was the speculative masters' ceremony ? It is not sufficient to refer me to the ceremonies established after 1717 , because there is ample evidence that the best part of the speculative ceremonies , as

practised centuries before , were omitted , aud it is useless attempting to conceal the fact that , until a very recent , period , all Masonry was Christianism . It is rather singular De Quincey should fix on the date 1646 as the period when the Rosicrucians assumed the name of Ereemasons . These Rosicrucians had several degrees , aud was it not about that period the TemplarsFree and

, Accepted Masons , < fec ., in England , claimed to represent — -by some supposed imaginary—fraternity of the Cross of Roses ? "From this period the annals of York contain scarcely any important transaction , till the year 1536 ,. the 27 th Henry VIII ., when the suppression of the monasteries and the progress of the Reformation excited

a great sensation in the northern counties . The suppression of the religious houses inflicted a terrible blow on the grandeur of York . In tho reign of Henry Y ., this city contained , besides the Cathedral , 41 parish , churches , 17 chapels , 16 hospitals , and 9 religious houses , including the noble Abbey of St , Mai-y , ivithout Boothwood Bar . No soonersays Drakewas the word iven

, , g , than down fell the monasteries , priories , chapels , and hospitals in this city , and with them , for company , I _ suppose , 18 parish churches , the material revenues of all being converted to secular uses . The lazars , sick and . old people were turned out of hospitals , and priests and '

nuns out of religious houses , to starve or beg their bread . The natural consequences of such sweeping and indiscriminate reforms was to excite a spirit of rebellion , and in Yorkshire a formidable insurrection , was raised by Robert Aske , a gentleman of considerable fortune , who possessed great influence in the county . The other chief persons concerned were Sir Robert

Constable , Sir John Bulmer , Sir Thomas Percy , Sir Sfcojjben Hamilton , Nicholas Tempest , and Wm . Lumley , Esquires . Their enterprise they called ' the Pilgrimage of Grace , ' ancl they swore that they were moved by no other motive than their love to God , their care of the King ' s person and issue , their desire to purify the nobilityto drive base-born from

, persons about the King , to restore tbe Church , and to suppress heresy . Allured by these pretensions about 4-0 , 000 men , from the counties of York , Durham , and Lancaster , flocked to their standard , and their zeal , no less thau their numbers , inspired the Court with apprehensions . When the army was put in motion , a number of priests marched at their head , in the habits of their Order ,

carrying crosses in their hands ; in their banners was woven a crucifix , with the representation of a chalicej , and the five wounds of Christ , and they wore on their sleeve an emblem of the five wounds with the name of Jesus wrought in the middle . All that joined them took the oath that they entered into this Pilgrimage of Grace for the love of God , the preservation of the King ' s

person , the restitution of the Church , and suppression of heretics . The rebels succeeded in taking both Hull and York , and laid siege to Pontefract Castle , in which , the Archbishop and Lord Darcy , at the head of a body of the King ' s troops , had thrown themselves . The Castle speedily surrendered , and the Prelate and the noblemen joined the insurrection . The Duke of Norfolk ,,

at the head of a small army of 5000 men was sent against the rebels , and the King issued a proclamation , in which ho told them that they ought no more to < pretend DO give a judgment with regard to Government than a blind man with regard to colours ! and we , he added , 'with our whole council , think it right , strange that ye , who are but brutes and inexpert folks , do take upon you to appoint us who be meet or not for our

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THE GRAND LODGE PROPERTY. Article 1
MASONIC CONTEMPORARIES. Article 1
THE DUTIES OF FREEMASONS. Article 1
THE TEACHINGS OF FREEMASONRY. Article 4
HER MAJESTY'S FATHER ON. MASONIC TEMPLARY. Article 5
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 6
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 9
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 10
ROYAL BENEVOLENT INSTITUTION FOR AGED MASONS AND THEIR WIDOWS. Article 10
METROPOLITAN. Article 11
PROVINCIAL. Article 12
INDIA. Article 14
ROYAL ARCH. Article 14
ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE. Article 15
Poetry. Article 16
WILLING TO BE TRIED AGAIN. Article 17
THE WEEK. Article 17
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Her Majesty's Father On. Masonic Templary.

Masonic correspondence amongst them , and , if so , no doubt a respectful application would be met with a permission to take copies of them . Who can tell where Dunckcrley ' s portrait , for which the Prince returns thanks , is to be seen now ?

Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

THE HIGH GBADES UT 1731 . Within a very few days a charter , empowering certain high grade Ereemasons to confer the Rose Croix aud 30 th degraes , dated 1721 , and signed by Prince Charles Edward Stuart ( James III . as he was called by his adherents in 1715 ) , with a very perfect seal of the chapter of Arraswas placed in my hands as a curiosity worth

, y of attention . Its possessor has also , in his collection , several letters of Charles I ., in which Freemasonry is distinctly mentioned . I am not at liberty , at present , to say more , but I hope this note will be acceptable to Delta who has written so learnedly and conclusively on the antiquity of Masonic degrees . —MATTHEW COOKE .

ANCIENT l'OKK MASONS . Aii old Masonic writer says " the ancient York Masons and their constitution , was entirely drojDt at the revival of the English Grand Lodge in 1717 . " By whom was the York rite dropped , so entirely except by Sayer , Desaguliers , and Co . ? Was not York Masonry English Masonry ? The inference to be drawn from the

quotation above is , that it was not . The Yorkshire brethren of the present day are said to be the most bright of all Masons , does this follow from their being the descendants and countrymen of the old York Masons ? - —J . T . W . — [ The York rite has never been dropped , it is in dailyuse aud flourishing in more than half the universe . The passage is ambiguous , the writer intended to make the

Grand Lodge of 1717 the Grand Lodge of England , in opposition to the Grand Lodge of York , and expressed himself so awkwardly as to produce a momentary doubt , such as occurred to J . T . W ., but his meaning cannot really bo misunderstood . There is no question as to the Masonic talent of the Yorkshire brethren , but there are , in every province , quite as bright Masons as they , and as to their connection with the old York rite it is as nothing . ]

THE MAINWAIIINGS . A brother some time ago made inquiry respecting tho Mainwarings : — " The only child of Joshua Radclifl ' e , Esq ., of Todmorden , married Roger Mainwaring , of Kerringliam , in the county of Chester , who dissipated the possessions , and , about the year 1700 , sold the Todmorden estates . " —Baines . A .

SUPPRESSION 01 ? RELIGIOUS ESTABLISHMENTS . In a short account of York , I find the following respecting the " Pilgrims of Grace , " which account is extracted chiefly from Graud Master Drake ' s Eboracum ; it may help us to a proper understanding of the secret meetings and secret methods of the York brotherhood , as well as the interference of Elizabeth in 1561 ( two years after the

second dissolution of the Order of St . John ) . Was the Order of St . John revived at York during the reign of Mary ? Could any brother give me proof , previously to 1787 , that York Templary included the Order of St . John ? This is denied by some , whilst on the other hand it appears probable such was the case ; and wherever the York degrees are practised , the two Orders are

united ; under any circumstances the Templars must have been the predominant element in the North . I trust no attempt will be made to make the Order of Malta a higher degree , as the Templars were always considered the more noble order . Judging from the minutes of the Scotisk lodges , previously to Bro . Desaguliar ' s visit to Edinburgh , the meetings in the crypt could not apply to a craft lodge . Also , I would observe that if our present ceremonies were

possessed by the craft masons , our master ' s degree , according to the minutes and even to tbe sense of its own legend , must necessarily havo been the Fellows' Ceremony . What , then , was the speculative masters' ceremony ? It is not sufficient to refer me to the ceremonies established after 1717 , because there is ample evidence that the best part of the speculative ceremonies , as

practised centuries before , were omitted , aud it is useless attempting to conceal the fact that , until a very recent , period , all Masonry was Christianism . It is rather singular De Quincey should fix on the date 1646 as the period when the Rosicrucians assumed the name of Ereemasons . These Rosicrucians had several degrees , aud was it not about that period the TemplarsFree and

, Accepted Masons , < fec ., in England , claimed to represent — -by some supposed imaginary—fraternity of the Cross of Roses ? "From this period the annals of York contain scarcely any important transaction , till the year 1536 ,. the 27 th Henry VIII ., when the suppression of the monasteries and the progress of the Reformation excited

a great sensation in the northern counties . The suppression of the religious houses inflicted a terrible blow on the grandeur of York . In tho reign of Henry Y ., this city contained , besides the Cathedral , 41 parish , churches , 17 chapels , 16 hospitals , and 9 religious houses , including the noble Abbey of St , Mai-y , ivithout Boothwood Bar . No soonersays Drakewas the word iven

, , g , than down fell the monasteries , priories , chapels , and hospitals in this city , and with them , for company , I _ suppose , 18 parish churches , the material revenues of all being converted to secular uses . The lazars , sick and . old people were turned out of hospitals , and priests and '

nuns out of religious houses , to starve or beg their bread . The natural consequences of such sweeping and indiscriminate reforms was to excite a spirit of rebellion , and in Yorkshire a formidable insurrection , was raised by Robert Aske , a gentleman of considerable fortune , who possessed great influence in the county . The other chief persons concerned were Sir Robert

Constable , Sir John Bulmer , Sir Thomas Percy , Sir Sfcojjben Hamilton , Nicholas Tempest , and Wm . Lumley , Esquires . Their enterprise they called ' the Pilgrimage of Grace , ' ancl they swore that they were moved by no other motive than their love to God , their care of the King ' s person and issue , their desire to purify the nobilityto drive base-born from

, persons about the King , to restore tbe Church , and to suppress heresy . Allured by these pretensions about 4-0 , 000 men , from the counties of York , Durham , and Lancaster , flocked to their standard , and their zeal , no less thau their numbers , inspired the Court with apprehensions . When the army was put in motion , a number of priests marched at their head , in the habits of their Order ,

carrying crosses in their hands ; in their banners was woven a crucifix , with the representation of a chalicej , and the five wounds of Christ , and they wore on their sleeve an emblem of the five wounds with the name of Jesus wrought in the middle . All that joined them took the oath that they entered into this Pilgrimage of Grace for the love of God , the preservation of the King ' s

person , the restitution of the Church , and suppression of heretics . The rebels succeeded in taking both Hull and York , and laid siege to Pontefract Castle , in which , the Archbishop and Lord Darcy , at the head of a body of the King ' s troops , had thrown themselves . The Castle speedily surrendered , and the Prelate and the noblemen joined the insurrection . The Duke of Norfolk ,,

at the head of a small army of 5000 men was sent against the rebels , and the King issued a proclamation , in which ho told them that they ought no more to < pretend DO give a judgment with regard to Government than a blind man with regard to colours ! and we , he added , 'with our whole council , think it right , strange that ye , who are but brutes and inexpert folks , do take upon you to appoint us who be meet or not for our

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