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Masonic Notes And Queries.

the beginning of the eighteenth century , it is not to be wondered at that foreign brethren should say England is tho birthplace of Freemasonry , but that it is not so everyone who studies the subject for himself must be perfectly well aware . ]

MARK MAN AND MAEK MASTER . Which is the correct designation of a Mark Freemason , a Mark Man or a Mark Master ? Are they identical or different ?—M . M . THE DOORS OE THE TEMPLE . Where were the doors of the temple situated ? I

said East , West , and South , but have been told I am wrong . Are we not told so?—A TOTING MAN . — [ You are wrong , whether you have been told so or not . The west had no door . The doors were east , north , and south . If you can get a copy of Zoroaster you willperhapsunderstand why . The old Masons

, , knew , and used to give the reason , but we don't give reasons now—we only assert ; and many very silly assertions we make , quite contrary to common sense and historical fact . The York Masons had more knowledge in their little fingers than all the lodge of reconciliation in their whole bodies . You sigu

yourself "A Youug Mason . " If you are so test everything , enquire for yourself , and dou't be led astray by mud huts , or any nonsense of the kind . Lodges of instruction are not unfrequently lodges of co . istructionfor the whimsical theories of the brethren termed preceptoi-s . ]

SYMBOLIC COLOURS . What are the symbolic colours applicable to Freemasons?—T . P . —[ Will " T . P . " oblige us by defining what he means by Freemasonry , i . e ., how many degrees he includes in his query , because on this point a correct answer turns . If his series is Craft

Masonry only , then blue , white , and , for Grand Officers , purple , are those applicable . If he includes the Eoyal Arch then add red . If other degrees , state them , for we can give him a touch of the entire prism , and one or two composites into the bargain , amongst the higher orders aud degrees . ]

THE REBUILDING OE THE TEMPLE ' . How many degrees refer to the building of the Temple?—T . P . —[ "T . P . " is an instance of inconclusiveness . How can we answer unless we know what Temple is meant—whether it was the building of Zerubbabel ' s or the other temple not built by

human hands . Brevity is highly to be commended in asking questions , but with brevity should be fulness and accuracy of inquiry . Two loose questions in one week are enough to puzzle that most iugenious of all mortals , a Philadelphia lawyer . ]

2295 , B . C . To what degree does the era 2295 u . c . relate ?—VERITAS . —[ The 13 ° , or Eoyal Arch , of the Ancient and Accepted Eite . ] THAT ' S NOT MASONIC .

In the course of our Masonic career , I have heard the following replies stated to be tin-Masonic . A brother , really an interminable button-holder , addressed another with a long-winded question . The individual BO inquired of replied , " Oh ! botheration , how can I

Masonic Notes And Queries.

tell ? " This answer I heard stigmatised as un-Masonic . Another time a brother lost his gloves , and was lamenting the misfortune in doleful terms , when a brothersaid , " No one will notice it , go in ; if your hands are dirty put them behind your back . " This was pronounced un-Masonic Are there any

hints on Masonic etiquette to be had ; I so often hear " That's not Masonic , " that I should like to know what really may be considered to be the right thing?—0 . M . Y . —[ Our querist is a wag , but-we hope he won't say , " that ' s not Masonic . " He will see we excised some curious items—and good

very they were ; but if we had inserted them the brethren ,, who could by no possibility have been mistaken by a large number of the Craft , would have said of us "that ' s not Masonic" to print such things . ]

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

Tlie Editor is not responsible for ihe opinions expressed ly Correspondents , MASONIC TAXATION . TO TUB EDITOR 0 ? TUB _ . __ --El _ -. SO-. S MAGAZINE A 1 TD MASOXIC HIP-EOH . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —I must own to a feeling of disappoiutmentxm reading the "P . M . ' s" reply to

my previous letter on Masonic Taxation . I fear I did him an unintentional injustice iu supposing that one who advocates , as he does , such an unconstitutional measure as a general direct taxation , ou behalf of the well-supported Charities iu connection with Freemasonsmust deal with the subject in a

compre-, hensive spirit , while " gilding the bitter pill" he would compel us all to swallow , and be , at least , clear and intelligible in the plan he proposes . Alas ! for my simplicity . The "P . M . " does not charm by his eloquence , convince by his reasoning , nor enlist sympathy for his project . He has no constructive theory by

which to suggest the modus operandi of his scheme . All that he puts forward is a crude , dogmatic proposition that every Freemason should be taxed tenshillings annually on behalf of the four Charities

applicable to the brethren and their families . There he stops , without a single suggestion of how this should be clone , aud his inventive powers appear tobe exhausted . He has harped on his one string and it produces no more than its solitary note . Delicacy towards a widely-beloved aud suffering brother suggested the suppression of his name in my

last letter . That he was a brother of " great influence , " when actively engaged in his duties , need not have been questioned by the "P . M ., " as I wrote truthfully and not hypothetically . But as all brfttbren of " great influence" may not be known to the " P . M ., " I beg to inform him I alluded to Brother Crew , Past .

Secretary to the Girls' School , who had often , years ago , propounded a system of taxation for the Charitable Institutions connected with Freemasons , the scheme of which was ably defined , but was induced not to take any steps towards his end by the advice of some of the largest contributors and warmestfriends to those establishments .

Paying and giving are two distinct acts though money is the basis of both . AVe pay for what we bave or make ourselves liable for . Payment is the redemption from a claim which we are bound in honour to satisfy because for what we pay we have ,

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THE CHARITIES. Article 1
MASONIC ARISTOCRACY. Article 2
Untitled Article 3
LIVES OF ENGLISH ARCHITECTS, BUILDERS, MASTER MASONS, &c. Article 3
THE MASONIC SCHOOLS. Article 4
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 4
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 6
MASONIC CHARITIES. Article 8
SOUTH WALES. Article 8
WEST YORKSHIRE. Article 9
Untitled Article 9
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 9
METROPOLITAN. Article 9
PROVINCIAL. Article 10
ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE. Article 12
ROYAL ARCH. Article 13
MARK MASONRY. Article 14
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 15
NOTES ON MUSIC AND THE DRAMA. Article 16
Poetry. Article 16
MASONIC SONG. Article 17
HOPE. Article 17
THE WEEK. Article 17
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

the beginning of the eighteenth century , it is not to be wondered at that foreign brethren should say England is tho birthplace of Freemasonry , but that it is not so everyone who studies the subject for himself must be perfectly well aware . ]

MARK MAN AND MAEK MASTER . Which is the correct designation of a Mark Freemason , a Mark Man or a Mark Master ? Are they identical or different ?—M . M . THE DOORS OE THE TEMPLE . Where were the doors of the temple situated ? I

said East , West , and South , but have been told I am wrong . Are we not told so?—A TOTING MAN . — [ You are wrong , whether you have been told so or not . The west had no door . The doors were east , north , and south . If you can get a copy of Zoroaster you willperhapsunderstand why . The old Masons

, , knew , and used to give the reason , but we don't give reasons now—we only assert ; and many very silly assertions we make , quite contrary to common sense and historical fact . The York Masons had more knowledge in their little fingers than all the lodge of reconciliation in their whole bodies . You sigu

yourself "A Youug Mason . " If you are so test everything , enquire for yourself , and dou't be led astray by mud huts , or any nonsense of the kind . Lodges of instruction are not unfrequently lodges of co . istructionfor the whimsical theories of the brethren termed preceptoi-s . ]

SYMBOLIC COLOURS . What are the symbolic colours applicable to Freemasons?—T . P . —[ Will " T . P . " oblige us by defining what he means by Freemasonry , i . e ., how many degrees he includes in his query , because on this point a correct answer turns . If his series is Craft

Masonry only , then blue , white , and , for Grand Officers , purple , are those applicable . If he includes the Eoyal Arch then add red . If other degrees , state them , for we can give him a touch of the entire prism , and one or two composites into the bargain , amongst the higher orders aud degrees . ]

THE REBUILDING OE THE TEMPLE ' . How many degrees refer to the building of the Temple?—T . P . —[ "T . P . " is an instance of inconclusiveness . How can we answer unless we know what Temple is meant—whether it was the building of Zerubbabel ' s or the other temple not built by

human hands . Brevity is highly to be commended in asking questions , but with brevity should be fulness and accuracy of inquiry . Two loose questions in one week are enough to puzzle that most iugenious of all mortals , a Philadelphia lawyer . ]

2295 , B . C . To what degree does the era 2295 u . c . relate ?—VERITAS . —[ The 13 ° , or Eoyal Arch , of the Ancient and Accepted Eite . ] THAT ' S NOT MASONIC .

In the course of our Masonic career , I have heard the following replies stated to be tin-Masonic . A brother , really an interminable button-holder , addressed another with a long-winded question . The individual BO inquired of replied , " Oh ! botheration , how can I

Masonic Notes And Queries.

tell ? " This answer I heard stigmatised as un-Masonic . Another time a brother lost his gloves , and was lamenting the misfortune in doleful terms , when a brothersaid , " No one will notice it , go in ; if your hands are dirty put them behind your back . " This was pronounced un-Masonic Are there any

hints on Masonic etiquette to be had ; I so often hear " That's not Masonic , " that I should like to know what really may be considered to be the right thing?—0 . M . Y . —[ Our querist is a wag , but-we hope he won't say , " that ' s not Masonic . " He will see we excised some curious items—and good

very they were ; but if we had inserted them the brethren ,, who could by no possibility have been mistaken by a large number of the Craft , would have said of us "that ' s not Masonic" to print such things . ]

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

Tlie Editor is not responsible for ihe opinions expressed ly Correspondents , MASONIC TAXATION . TO TUB EDITOR 0 ? TUB _ . __ --El _ -. SO-. S MAGAZINE A 1 TD MASOXIC HIP-EOH . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —I must own to a feeling of disappoiutmentxm reading the "P . M . ' s" reply to

my previous letter on Masonic Taxation . I fear I did him an unintentional injustice iu supposing that one who advocates , as he does , such an unconstitutional measure as a general direct taxation , ou behalf of the well-supported Charities iu connection with Freemasonsmust deal with the subject in a

compre-, hensive spirit , while " gilding the bitter pill" he would compel us all to swallow , and be , at least , clear and intelligible in the plan he proposes . Alas ! for my simplicity . The "P . M . " does not charm by his eloquence , convince by his reasoning , nor enlist sympathy for his project . He has no constructive theory by

which to suggest the modus operandi of his scheme . All that he puts forward is a crude , dogmatic proposition that every Freemason should be taxed tenshillings annually on behalf of the four Charities

applicable to the brethren and their families . There he stops , without a single suggestion of how this should be clone , aud his inventive powers appear tobe exhausted . He has harped on his one string and it produces no more than its solitary note . Delicacy towards a widely-beloved aud suffering brother suggested the suppression of his name in my

last letter . That he was a brother of " great influence , " when actively engaged in his duties , need not have been questioned by the "P . M ., " as I wrote truthfully and not hypothetically . But as all brfttbren of " great influence" may not be known to the " P . M ., " I beg to inform him I alluded to Brother Crew , Past .

Secretary to the Girls' School , who had often , years ago , propounded a system of taxation for the Charitable Institutions connected with Freemasons , the scheme of which was ably defined , but was induced not to take any steps towards his end by the advice of some of the largest contributors and warmestfriends to those establishments .

Paying and giving are two distinct acts though money is the basis of both . AVe pay for what we bave or make ourselves liable for . Payment is the redemption from a claim which we are bound in honour to satisfy because for what we pay we have ,

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